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Windows 10: Home network discovery not working after latest W10 Update


  1.    New16 Nov 2015#1

    Home network discovery not working after latest W10 Update


    I just installed (yesterday) the latest W10 update that installed Version 1511 (OS Build 10586.3) and my home network consisting of five W10 PC's has been "destroyed." I do not use Homegroup. Instead, I have always set up all the drives/folders as shared on all the computers. That worked just fine until now! For some reason only one of the PC's is detected by the other PC's on the network. However, all the drives that I had previously Mapped are OK. Is there some new magic setting that I have to change to get network discovery working again ...or... is MSFT forcing me to use Homegroup?

    A little more information to add to my confusion. I was wrong above - two of the PC's are shown in the Network on all the PC's. One of the five PC's, which I use as a home server, runs 24-7. For some reason it has all the other PC's showing under Network and can access all the stuff on all the PC's!! I know it used to take Windows a few minutes to find all the PC's on the Network but... all the other PC's have been running for many hours and nothing changes.
    Last edited by Ken429; 16 Nov 2015 at 06:17.
    Computer Type: PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number: Custom Build
    OS: W10
    CPU: 4790K @ MB Defaults
    Motherboard: ASR Z97 Extreme6
    Memory: 2X4GB GSkilll Z 2400-10
    Graphics Card: EVGA 960 4GB
    Sound Card: MB
    Monitor(s) Displays: Samsung 2433
    Screen Resolution: 1920X1200
    Keyboard: Microsoft Sidewinder X4
    Mouse: Logitech M510
    PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 850
    Case: Fractal Design R5
    Cooling: H100i
    Hard Drives: Sandisk Extreme Pro 240GB boot drive Crucial MX 500GB WD Blacks 2TB and 1TB Drives
    Internet Speed: Cable
    Browser: IE11, Chrome, Edge
    Antivirus: Norton - Comcast Version
    Other Info: ASRock Z97 Extreme6 MB Using the Intel NIC on MB

  2.    New16 Nov 2015#2

    I found on a clean install, my network was set to Public. Like that Network Discovery and file sharing are turned off. What I do is go to Control Panel > HomeGroup. I then get a message saying Homegroups can not be created, something like that. Then you get and option to change it. I click that and change it to Private. I don't remember exactly what it says. End result though, is it enables network discovery and file and print sharing. Then go into advanced sharing options and change the last one to "Use user accounts and passwords....". If file and print sharing is still turned off turn that on too.
    Computer Type: PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number: Pi Foundation Raspberry Pi 3B
    OS: Windows 10 IoT
    CPU: ARM Cortex-A53 1.2 GHz 64 bit quad-core
    Motherboard: Raspberry Pi Model 3B
    Memory: 1 GB (LPDDR2 SDRAM) (shared with GPU)
    Graphics Card: •VideoCore IV multimedia/3D graphics core @ 400MHz/300MHz
    Sound Card: Combined 3.5mm audio jack and composite video
    Monitor(s) Displays: 7 Inch Pi Foundation Touch Screen
    Screen Resolution: 800x480 @60fps 24-bit color,
    Keyboard: Mini Wireless with touchpad
    Mouse: FT5406 10 point capacitive touchscreen
    PSU: 5V @ 10 A
    Case: Pibow Midnight - Limited-Edition!
    Cooling: 7.5 mm Heat Sink no fan.
    Hard Drives: 8 GB SanDisk Ultra Class 10 Micro SD card.
    Internet Speed: 10/100 Mbit/s Ethernet - 802.11n wireless - Bluetooth 4.1
    Browser: non
    Antivirus: non
    Other Info: •4 USB ports •40 GPIO pins •Full size HDMI 1.3a port •Camera interface (CSI) •Display interface (DSI) •Micro SD card slot

  3. Posts : 38 Microsoft Windows 10 Professional
       New16 Nov 2015#3

    Just had the issue myself on my 3 PC's... Solution was to turn all of them off, turn one back on and establish a new Network with it then boot the others up and join it as otherwise they'd try to join the old one without access to the password >_>

    Computer Type: PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number: Homemade
    OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Professional
    CPU: Intel Core i7-5930K
    Motherboard: ASUS RAMPAGE V Extreme
    Memory: 32GB Corsair Dominator Platinum
    Graphics Card: 2x EVGA GTX 980 SC
    Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster ZxR
    Monitor(s) Displays: 3x Dell UltraSharp U3011 / 1x Wacom Cintiq 24HD Touch
    Screen Resolution: 3x 2560x1600 / 1x 1920x1200
    Keyboard: 2x Logitech G710+ Mechanical Gaming Keyboard / 1x Logitech G13 Advanced Gameboard
    Mouse: Logitech G700 Wireless Gaming Mouse / 3DConnexion Space Pilot PRO
    PSU: Corsair AX1200i Digital ATX Power Supply
    Case: Corsair 900D
    Cooling: EKWB / Aquacomputer Custom Water Cooling
    Hard Drives: 1x Samsung 960 PRO 1TB M.2 SSD 4x Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB
    Internet Speed: 500'000KBit / 50'000KBit
    Browser: Microsoft EDGE
    Antivirus: YOLO
    Computer Type: Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number: Microsoft Surface Book w/ Performance Base
    OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Professional
    CPU: 6th Gen Core i7
    Memory: 16GB
    Graphics Card: Intel HD / nVidia GTX 965M
    Screen Resolution: 3'000 x 2'000
    Mouse: Surface Pen / Logitech MX Anywhere II
    Hard Drives: 1TB SSD
    Internet Speed: 500'000KBit / 50'000KBit
    Browser: Microsoft EDGE
    Antivirus: YOLO

  4.    New17 Nov 2015#4

    Still looking for some help on my W10 Discovery Problem after the W10 version update! I really don't want to start over and rebuild all the shared and mapped stuff I've got or HAD. Here is my situation:

    PC1 (4790K2) - Visible to all the other computers on the network
    PC2 (3770K) - Visible to all the other computers on the network
    PC3 (4790K) - NOT Visible to any computers on the network except PC5 (Xeon Home Server)
    PC4 (2600K) - NOT Visible to any computers on the network except PC5 (Xeon Home Server)
    PC5 (Xeon Home Server) - NOT Visible to any computers on the network
    PC6 (Q9550) and PC7 (E8500) are currently not turned on but have multiple disk drive shares and mapped drives to the Home Server.

    All of the computers on the network have mapped drives pointed to the Home Server. (Like I said above the mapped drives work ok.) Maybe that is why PC5 can see all the computers on the network? All of the computers have all their drives marked as shared. All of the computers have multiple disk drives.

    So I'm concerned that if I create a new network I'll end up having to recreate all the mapped stuff etc.

    Sure would be nice if someone could tell me exactly what went wrong with the W10 updated process and how to "fix" the three PC's that are not being detected correctly. I have looked at the Advanced Sharing options and all the PC's are set up exactly the same! Homegroup does not seem to be a viable solution since it does not pick up all the shared disk drives?!
    Computer Type: PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number: Custom Build
    OS: W10
    CPU: 4790K @ MB Defaults
    Motherboard: ASR Z97 Extreme6
    Memory: 2X4GB GSkilll Z 2400-10
    Graphics Card: EVGA 960 4GB
    Sound Card: MB
    Monitor(s) Displays: Samsung 2433
    Screen Resolution: 1920X1200
    Keyboard: Microsoft Sidewinder X4
    Mouse: Logitech M510
    PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 850
    Case: Fractal Design R5
    Cooling: H100i
    Hard Drives: Sandisk Extreme Pro 240GB boot drive Crucial MX 500GB WD Blacks 2TB and 1TB Drives
    Internet Speed: Cable
    Browser: IE11, Chrome, Edge
    Antivirus: Norton - Comcast Version
    Other Info: ASRock Z97 Extreme6 MB Using the Intel NIC on MB


  5. Retired from the grind
    Posts : 4,457 Mac OS Sierra
       New17 Nov 2015#5

    I did not have issues with my wife's upgrade. There is no issue with the update process. As for fix the issue, have you unplugged the Gateway/Router? Also are you using any type of third party Internet Security software?

    Any device that I use for file storage, etc. I set a Static IP on them. But I am using a decent Gateway that handles Static or Sticky DHCP IP's better then the stock one that I got from ATT.

    Computer Type: Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number: Macbook Air (Early 2015), 7/2
    OS: Mac OS Sierra
    CPU: Intel i5 1.8 Ghz
    Motherboard: Intel
    Memory: 8 GB
    Graphics Card: Intel
    Sound Card: Intel
    Monitor(s) Displays: LCD
    Mouse: Logitech Trackball model 570
    Cooling: Passive
    Hard Drives: 120 GB; Synology DIS216+II NAS with 2 TB Raid 0, Fantom G Drives 4TB external eSATA.
    Internet Speed: 45/5 - ATT U-Verse
    Browser: Google Chrome
    Antivirus: None needed. It is Mac OS
    Other Info: Gateway - Arris NVG589; Switch - Netgear GS105 5-Port Switch; Access Points - Engenius EAP1750H (POE); Printer - Brother HL-2280DW; Network UPS - APC BN1250G, Output Capacity: 1250VA / 74; NVIDIA Shield TV for Media viewing on tv; Silicon Dust HD Home Run Connect for OTA.

  6.    New17 Nov 2015#6

    I tried shutting down everything on the system including the Cable Modem, the Router and the Switch. Brought everything back up and I still have the same problem - only two of the computers are detected yet the server sees all of the systems - because of the mapping that was done before the latest W10 update?

    I'm sure your correct that there is nothing wrong with the latest W10 update however, everything was working just fine before I let MSFT install the update to W10!
    Computer Type: PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number: Custom Build
    OS: W10
    CPU: 4790K @ MB Defaults
    Motherboard: ASR Z97 Extreme6
    Memory: 2X4GB GSkilll Z 2400-10
    Graphics Card: EVGA 960 4GB
    Sound Card: MB
    Monitor(s) Displays: Samsung 2433
    Screen Resolution: 1920X1200
    Keyboard: Microsoft Sidewinder X4
    Mouse: Logitech M510
    PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 850
    Case: Fractal Design R5
    Cooling: H100i
    Hard Drives: Sandisk Extreme Pro 240GB boot drive Crucial MX 500GB WD Blacks 2TB and 1TB Drives
    Internet Speed: Cable
    Browser: IE11, Chrome, Edge
    Antivirus: Norton - Comcast Version
    Other Info: ASRock Z97 Extreme6 MB Using the Intel NIC on MB


  7. Retired from the grind
    Posts : 4,457 Mac OS Sierra
       New17 Nov 2015#7

    I would go through and check that all of the servers are set up with Static IP's. Remove the Mapped drives and try adding them again. Also keep in mind that if you are using any kind of Internet Security Software. It could have been screwed up by the upgrade, if you did not remove and reinstall after moving up to Windows 10.

    When I did my wife's laptop to Windows 10 the first time. I did an in place upgrade and the unit was just acting really bad. We are talking Windows ME bad. I went back and did a reinstall of the last image I had for Windows 8.1. Then did a "Clean" install to Windows 10, by choosing the third option. When I did the upgrade to 10586. I downloaded the ISO and did an in place upgrade. I had issues the first time through, so I had to do a little digging to figure out how to get it work. Had no issues after doing the solution that I found.

    Also run the DISM fix in this tutorial. DISM - Repair Windows 10 Image - Windows 10 Forums

    If the three units are actually servers. I would use instead of Windows 10, maybe use FreeNas or use a Linux Server like CentOS or BSD to do Samba/CFS Shares. That way you are not running into using Desktop software for units that are not even going to get used as desktops. It also makes handling the shares and computers allowed. Along with if you are running Windows 10 Pro, instead of Home on all computers.

    The router/gateway that I am using for my network, you can get it for $190 through newegg.com. The Cisco RV320 has been a rock solid Gateway for me. I use it as an "Edge" router, since my U-Verse Gateway has to be used for the connection. The Wireless A/P that I use is now down to $78.

    At least with the Cisco, I can lock the IP's to the MAC ID, and able to make sure that no device loses it's IP, if I do not set a static IP on the device.
    Ken429 said:
    I tried shutting down everything on the system including the Cable Modem, the Router and the Switch. Brought everything back up and I still have the same problem - only two of the computers are detected yet the server sees all of the systems - because of the mapping that was done before the latest W10 update?

    I'm sure your correct that there is nothing wrong with the latest W10 update however, everything was working just fine before I let MSFT install the update to W10!

    Computer Type: Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number: Macbook Air (Early 2015), 7/2
    OS: Mac OS Sierra
    CPU: Intel i5 1.8 Ghz
    Motherboard: Intel
    Memory: 8 GB
    Graphics Card: Intel
    Sound Card: Intel
    Monitor(s) Displays: LCD
    Mouse: Logitech Trackball model 570
    Cooling: Passive
    Hard Drives: 120 GB; Synology DIS216+II NAS with 2 TB Raid 0, Fantom G Drives 4TB external eSATA.
    Internet Speed: 45/5 - ATT U-Verse
    Browser: Google Chrome
    Antivirus: None needed. It is Mac OS
    Other Info: Gateway - Arris NVG589; Switch - Netgear GS105 5-Port Switch; Access Points - Engenius EAP1750H (POE); Printer - Brother HL-2280DW; Network UPS - APC BN1250G, Output Capacity: 1250VA / 74; NVIDIA Shield TV for Media viewing on tv; Silicon Dust HD Home Run Connect for OTA.

  8.    New17 Nov 2015#8

    Having similar issue since the big update, so far no fix


    Hello,

    I am having a similar (or maybe the same) issue. Prior to the latest update I was able to view the non windows server machines in my network in the file explorer /network node.

    After the update these machine disappeared from the network vieiw, but I am still able to map drives, and create shortcuts.

    I am able to work around by mapping and creating shortcuts, so this is just a pain right now. I would like to be able to just browse like I should be able to.

    I posted in a similar thread also in the network area of tenforums.

    Several people have posted similar network discovery/visability type issue since the update. Any suggestions are appreciated.

    Thanks
    Computer Type: Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number: Alienware M14
    OS: Win10
    CPU: i7 4700MQ
    Motherboard: Intel HM87
    Memory: 8gb DD
    Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GT750M
    Sound Card: Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays: Laptop Monitor
    Screen Resolution: 1366X768
    Keyboard: Laptop mechanical
    Mouse: touchpad and usb mouse
    PSU: Laptop PSU
    Case: Alienware
    Cooling: Air
    Hard Drives: WD7500 - 7200rpm
    Internet Speed: Cable
    Browser: ie + edge
    Antivirus: Norton

  9. Posts : 894 Windows 1.00 to Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Build 14971.1000
       New17 Nov 2015#9

    I've switched off my wife's PC and managed to set up the Workgroup folder on mine. In networks however two folders in my onedrive folder showup. They are labelled Important 1 and Important 2. They contain music and documents. It seems Build 10586.3 trawls the hard drives and adds folders containing documents , pictures etc. to the network.

    Also my wife's shared folders don't show up on the Network on hers or mine.

    Also when I tried to join my wife's PC to homegroup it broke my PC's Homegroup.

    Computer Type: PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number: Self build
    OS: Windows 1.00 to Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Build 14971.1000
    CPU: Intel Core i3
    Motherboard: Asus Z170-K
    Memory: 8GB DDR-4
    Graphics Card: On board graphics
    Sound Card: On board audio (Realtek)
    Monitor(s) Displays: Dell 2707WFP
    Screen Resolution: 1920 x 1200
    Internet Speed: 240Mb/s
    Browser: MS Edge, Windows 10 IE


  10. Retired from the grind
    Posts : 4,457 Mac OS Sierra
       New17 Nov 2015#10

    Home network discovery not working after latest W10 Update


    Homegroup has always been broke. That is why I only use standard networking.

    What happens if you open a Command Window as admin and enter & run "net share"?

    "net view" will show all computers on the network.

    You may have to do a winsock reset and dns flush.

    Computer Type: Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number: Macbook Air (Early 2015), 7/2
    OS: Mac OS Sierra
    CPU: Intel i5 1.8 Ghz
    Motherboard: Intel
    Memory: 8 GB
    Graphics Card: Intel
    Sound Card: Intel
    Monitor(s) Displays: LCD
    Mouse: Logitech Trackball model 570
    Cooling: Passive
    Hard Drives: 120 GB; Synology DIS216+II NAS with 2 TB Raid 0, Fantom G Drives 4TB external eSATA.
    Internet Speed: 45/5 - ATT U-Verse
    Browser: Google Chrome
    Antivirus: None needed. It is Mac OS
    Other Info: Gateway - Arris NVG589; Switch - Netgear GS105 5-Port Switch; Access Points - Engenius EAP1750H (POE); Printer - Brother HL-2280DW; Network UPS - APC BN1250G, Output Capacity: 1250VA / 74; NVIDIA Shield TV for Media viewing on tv; Silicon Dust HD Home Run Connect for OTA.

 

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